The Hai-O Exodus!!!!

Here's some stuff about Hai-O.

Ni definisi syubhah menurut huraian ringkas petikan dari IslamGrid;

http://www.islamgrid.my/qna/index.php?cari=Syubhah

Saya pernah dengar orang Hai-O selalu cakap, keuntungan tidak bercampur.... ini bukan soal pendapatan dari mana ke mana... ini soal syubhah sebuah c/o jual arak memiliki 100% sebuah c/o MLM... itu aje. Macamana kita nak kata tiada kaitan langsung, kalau hak milik 100%. Shareholder dia yang Akitan, Daritan & Excellant Communication Sdn Bhd pulak shareholders semua the Tan's kecuali Ng Ming Han... listed as 'investment holding' dan 'commissions agent'. lain2 adalah Bank Nominees... also rasanyalah, hedges/investment arm termasuk Kenanga.shareholders dia banyak from commercial banks (nominees), individuals yang mungkin kebetulan non muslim... dan semua yang tersebut terlibat dengan riba. itu mmg confirm la... conventional bank, futures trading etc. shareholders untuk Hai-O Ent Berhad... maksudnya... duit masuk untuk shares kemungkinan ada unsur riba and the main point is... it sells alcoholic beverages medicinal or not ada beza ke? tengok elok2 kat section RED WINE dia... aku baca pun aku dah tau the notes or comments are terms used by sommeliers or wine tasters... tak tau lak medicinal wine siap ada comment camtu;

http://mall.hai-o.com.my/stores_app/...arent_ids=0,47

Secondly... Hai-O Ent Berhad OWNS 100% Hai-O Marketing. So amacam? it means the major sole and the only share holder is Hai-O Ent Berhad that sells wine & alcohol!!! Tadaaa, kan senang nak paham. Hai-O Raya pun sama, walaupun bukan milik 100%, Hai-O Enterprise masih major shareholder. Ada beberapa petikan dari KPDN... hish, kan nampak sangat takde kaitan??? >.<;

http://www.kpdnkk.gov.my/index.php?o...422&Itemid=460

http://www.kpdnkk.gov.my/index.php?o...415&Itemid=460

http://www.kpdnkk.gov.my/index.php?o...401&Itemid=460

Jadi hakikatnya secara kasar la, terlibat bermaksud CUMA membeli barang & mendapat bonus dari c/o yang jelas syubhah, membeli barang menyumbang kepada c/o syubhah VOLUNTARILY.

Tadi tentang syubhah... ini tentang issue halal...

Try checking this out;

http://www.hai-omarketing.com.my/haio/ifrc_1.asp

Cert from IFRC Asia (Bahtera Lagenda Sdn Bhd) about the products. It is POSSIBLE that JAKIM acknowledges certs from members of WHC, meaning no need to apply JAKIM's own Halal cert (mind you, only for consumables/food). Now go here;

http://www.halal.gov.my/directory/index.php?lang=BM

and check if SG Global Biotech Sdn Bhd (the manufacturer in the IFRC Asia cert) has a cert from JAKIM for food manufacturing premises. Tadaaa!!! I rest my case regarding loopholes in the system.

Unlike this one;

http://www.hai-omarketing.com.my/haio/eurycohalal.asp

Yanling Natural Hygiene Sdn Bhd does have HDC/JAKIM premise status. Please check one by one since i can only find one product (Euryco) that has both consumable & premise Halal recognition.

This one;

http://www.hai-omarketing.com.my/haio/hfci_1.asp

is given to Hai-O Marketing by Halal Food Council International... but the premise has no JAKIM recognition. Check it out.

Hmm... i am not sure kalau2 budak2 Hai-O ni tau ke tak maksud PDA License which Hai-O Ent Bhd ada. It doesn't state which type of license... but i generally know of PDA1, PDA2 & PDA4. PDA1 is basically for petropumps, skid tanks & barges (floating?). PDA2 if not mistaken is trading of petroleum products & PDA4 is for storage (maybe terbalik). No ordinary c/o can get such licenses. Most of the time its linked to high profile businessmen and politicians or people within the corridors of power.

Maybe this explains why some of the shareholders of Hai-O Ent are investment holdings & one of them a commissions agent. Do you have any idea how much commission one gets for petroleum product trading??? Adakah kebetulan investment holdings dan commissions agent yang menjadi shareholder Hai-O Enterprise Bhd dimiliki oleh orang yang sama yang juga kebetulan non-Muslim?

ok, just mau tambah info. Hai-O is listed as non-syariah (jual arak) compliant kat Bursa main board. Shareholders semua non-muslim, nominees local & international banks (investment) dan beberapa Sdn Bhd seperti Kenanga, Akintan, daritan & Excellant Communication... mostly investment & futures most possibly hedges as well;

http://www.klse.com.my/website/bm/li...f_companies/#H

Hurm... since it isn't syariah compliant... just a conventional MLM plus parent/fellow subsidiary c/o sells alcohol. Setakat dapat lesen MLM conventional dari Kerajaan... sama ke dengan HALAL dari hukum syara'? Kenapa tidak ambil kira asal usul syarikat tersebut, shareholders dan agihan keuntungan serta c/o charges atau sumber capital asal since 100% dimiliki Hai-O Ent?

Bagi saya, isu sebenarnya adalah kesedaran tentang kepenggunaan dari sudut hukum syara'. Masalah utama adalah bila orang yang mempunyai ilmu agama setakat ilmu orang awam macam saya... mencampur adukkan conventional legality dengan syara' halalness. In the end its just a matter of choice... kita nak kekal ignorant atau tidak tentang hhukum.

Bacalah beberapa article ini sebagai rujukan, nak paham baguslah, buat-buat tak paham sukatilah.

http://baheis.islam.gov.my/web/musyk...D?OpenDocument

http://www.islamgrid.gov.my/qna/index.php?cari=syubhah

http://www.zaharuddin.net/content/vi.../#comment84873

Ini semua facts and available on public record. Siasatlah sendiri kalau tak yakin. Apa yang jelas, melibatkan diri dengan MLM syubhah sedangkan ada option lain (takkan la nak kira join MLM ni sebagai darurat sepertimana issue sin tax government, lawak ***** la tu) amat jelas diulas oleh mana2 org yang betul2 arif tentang muamalah..